7/5/08

the bihar end of the problem

if you ignore raj thackeray's ugly tactics, you'd realize that he's actually less jingoistic than laloo prasad yadav- yadav routinely siphons away whatever major, new investments that are being made by the railways to chhapra or madhepura or other places in bihar. mr.yadav and mr.paswan before him, together, have also ensured that the overwhelming majority of new jobs in the railways, in the last one decade, went to job seekers from bihar. if mr.yadav thinks national investments should serve regional interests, what's wrong with mr.thackeray advocating that regional investments should create regional jobs?

why can't young people from bihar find more jobs without a) cornering an undue portion of the jobs in the national public sector, b) or migrating to mumbai or other prosperous cities and regions? and why can't mumbai stop hosting migrants if its infrastructure can't accommodate them? the usual answer from the liberals, that we're a nation where all people have the right to work anywhere solves neither the biharis' problem nor the mumbaikars'. but that's the facile line most of the media seems to take when dealing with these issues. like sagarika ghose in this article, for instance:
Three years ago when Raj Thackeray broke away from the Shiv Sena and launched his own Maharashtra Navnirman Sena, he promised to create a modern version of the Sena. Three years after being in the political wilderness,after being wiped out in the Mumbai municipal polls, Thackeray has realized that modern politics is hardly ever successful in a modern economy.Instead, the best way to win votes in a reforming economy is not to join hands with the forces of change but with regionalists and cultural chauvinists, who are unwilling to compete in the open economy, but instead want the benefit of other peoples' hard work by simply the privileges of their birth in a particular state. (italics mine)
an open economy. other people's hard work. privileges of their birth. she sounds so much like a commenter on my previous post:
Ramadoss - the champion of SC/ST and OBCs (aka the incompetents who hanker for handouts) subverted the Parliament to satisfy his ego, and on the Supreme Court striking down his subversion, he is shameless to not want to resign.
the incompetents who hanker for handouts.

if india were an open economy, paddy and wheat farmers in the country would right now be cashing in on the upward trend in world grain prices. and foremost among them would have been farmers from u.p., and bihar, states with the best access to large, perennial sources of water. if india were an open economy, the mumbai metro would've been built more than three decades ago when it was first proposed.

if india were an open economy, young people from bihar would find more jobs without a) cornering an undue portion of the jobs in the national public sector, b) or migrating to mumbai or other prosperous cities and regions.

if india were an open economy mumbaikars would follow economic logic and respect the value of the cheap labour provided by the migrants more.

why don't the indian liberals or the media look at the bihar end of the mumbai problem? or dig deeper into the cultural and political issues involved? or examine closely the economics of the problem? it's easy to dismiss thackeray or the pro-kannada activists as regionalists and cultural chauvinists: but karnataka has been trying to implement the three language formula in the country much more sincerely than many states in the north and maharashtra produces more ph.ds in hindi than, possibly, some hindi speaking states.

does the problem actually begin or end with raj thackeray and other such almost filmi villains? or are the indian media and the liberals incapable of looking any deeper?

6 comments:

Anoop Saha said...

Large numbers of migration occur not just from Bihar, but also from Chhattisgarh, MP, UP, Orissa and West Bengal. And these people are not, as you claim, "cornering an undue portion of the jobs in the national public sector". There are many many reasons for migration, not least among them is lack of land ownership. I am not sure who you are calling a liberal, but the kind of fascist xenophobic identity politics that Raj Thackeray is indulging in, and previously by Narendra Modi, is something every liberal will oppose. The basis of such xenophobia is again related to market economics, the closing of Mumbai mills, the diversion of the mill land towards real estate projects.

I guess you should also take into account at the kind of central assistance and public investments that were made in Mumbai/Western Maharashtra earlier and New Delhi now. So harking on Mr. Lalu Parasad Yadav for proposing public plants in Bihar is just not very smart. Being ignorant is not an excuse of being stupid.

BTW, all these high food prices benefit only the large landowners. Farming has been systematically eroded by the state, so much so that small landholdings have become unsustainable.

Kiran said...

Hi Kufr,

i dont agree with your approach/judgement to this problem. Whatever may be the political reasons behind Raj thackeray's outburst the first and the right thing to do is to defend the hapless labourers from UP and Bihar there. Whatever may be the grouses of Raj thackeray it is cruel to take them out on these labourers.

Having said that I think one of the biggest problems in India is the declaration of Hindi as a National language. It is an unjustified imposition of one langauge spoke by 20-30% of the population on the entire country. This however needs to addressed differently without linking it to the ugly politics of Raj Thackeray.

kuffir said...

anoop,

'Large numbers of migration occur not just from Bihar, but also from Chhattisgarh, MP, UP, Orissa and West Bengal.'

exactly. you'll notice, if you read more closely, that i'm talking of bihar and u.p (not just bihar)., in some places of my post. and of 'prosperous regions' like 'mumbai, bangalore'. all those cities, states mentioned are no more than easy-to-understand metaphors for so-called 'backward' and 'prosperous' regions.

yes, bihar and mumbai ar also mentioned specifically- i want you to dwell on the cultural/linguistic aspects of these conflicts too.

by focussing on 'bihar' and raj thackeray etc., you've just proved my point that most of the media and the indian liberals are incapable of looking beyond the one dimensional aspects of these issues. you did talk of 'lack of land ownership'- but your chief concern seems to be raj thackeray, narendra modi etc., more than the problems of the people of bihar or mumbai..sad. like i said, 'the usual answer from the liberals, that we're a nation where all people have the right to work anywhere solves neither the biharis' problem nor the mumbaikars'.

but that said, i'd ask you not to jump to any more hasty conclusions about what i'm trying to say- this is only one part of a post i'd divided into parts. would welcome your comments on later posts too. thanks.

kiran,

like i just mentioned to anoop, i think it'd be hasty to conclude anything about my approach/judgment, because i've not as yet expanded fully on it. i've already talked about the inhumane treatment meted out to poor folks from u.p/bihar in a previous post (first link in this post)...

yes, you've identified a part of cultural aspects of the problem. thanks for your comment.

Selvam said...

Raj Thackrey's army is made of soldiers from OBC and SC and STs. All violence the 'bhaiyyas' from UP and Bihar experienced was from these foot soldiers from Raj's army.

Shiv Sena also is filled with soldiers from OBC, SC and ST Marathi people, the same caste that Raj gets his supporters from.

Marathas (these do not belong to OBC, SC and ST) make up some part too and they resent the OBC, SC and ST very much. All of the whole set are aggressive, militant, intolerant and want things easy, and want it their way.

They beat UP and Biharis even when they are also OBC, SC and ST like them.

Majority rules, and to majority merit, fairness, country, idelism etc are not as important as they wanting things by force - on the street or in the parliament.

Narendra Modi is an OBC too. One of the worst leaders India got. He instigated his workers (almost all of them from his OBC caste) into killing muslim in the riots.

India is facing a crisis of leadership, especially with bankrupt leaders like these, again from OBC, SC, ST castes because SC, ST, and OBC know electing them may not be good for the country but who cares of the country so long as these leaders will pass on largese to OBC, SC, and ST.

Here education is required first and foremost.

Anoop Saha said...

Kufr,

Thanks for your response. However you will notice that my comment was more a response to your post, and less a social commentary. Whether you intended it to be that way or not, your original post did come out to be as a quick glance away from Raj Thackeray's antics, and in a way justifying his and his supporter's violent actions. I would like to see your forthcoming posts. My chief concern has always been and still is lack of land reforms in India.

Yes, there is a Bihar/UP/Chhattisgarh/West Bengal/Orissa/Vidharbha/Telangana end of the problem. But that problem is again related to the social and economical status of those states, the strict caste hierarchy. My point was that while you castigate the Indian railways for overt regional preferences, you completely ignore the public investments made in the cities and prosperous regions of India over the years since the independence. If anything that a liberal would want is more equal distribution of both national income and spending. the rulers of these states are to be blamed, but their crimes and those of xenphobes like Thackerays are of entirely different dimensions.

Peter said...

Anoop, there is little land to go around to keep people back. India is producing babies in those communities, but it cannot match those babies by 'producing' land.

And where there is land, like with the prosperous OBCs, the Jats, who boast of very large landholdings. They quickly sold off the lands in return for the large sums of money the builders offered them.

Selvam in his comment above has a point. This 'reservation' politics also made sure one thing, that it is legitimate to corner all goodies, even those, actually mostly those someone else created, for themselves if they can mobilise together as homogeneous caste blocks.

And this is what is happening in the case of Raj Thackrey, Bal Thackerey etc.

Why is it correct to corner reservation benefits behind a specious fig leaf like 'underprivileged' and 'backwardness' etc. and not correct or right to corner the same benefits by regionalism?

Both are about keeping out others by force of numbers when they do not have the force of intellect or ability to compete and benefit.

 
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